Draft Comment for OPT Students Awaiting STEM Extension Rule

The proposed OPT STEM rule has been published in the Federal Register, which means that the 30 day comment period has officially begun. The public has until November 18th to submit written comments for or against the proposal. If you are needing a STEM extension, now is the time to take action and make your voice heard! It is important that submitted comments be well-crafted, and not just random statements that you are for the proposal. For ideas of what not to do, you can see comments already submitted at: http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=ICEB-2015-0002. There are over 2,000 comments submitted already, the majority of them are from students, and unfortunately, they don’t do much to add to the discussion.  The purpose of comments is to enhance the quality of law and ensure that proposed regulations meet the needs of the people being regulated. Simple statements supporting the rule are not helpful.

To help you in submitting a stronger comment, I have drafted a sample for you below. It is imperative that you modify the sample! Please be sure to personalize your letter to your unique circumstances. Talk about the contributions you have made to this country during your OPT, important projects you have worked on, research you are doing, new products and technologies that you have helped to develop.  This template covers the major portions of the rule that I think are applicable to the most number of students. Feel free to add additional comments about the other provisions, such as determining which programs qualify as STEM fields, how students can use a prior STEM degree, etc. Once you modify your letter to tell your story, you can print, sign, and mail it to the address mentioned. Or, if you prefer, you can submit it online at: https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2015/10/19/2015-26395/improving-and-expanding-training-opportunities-for-f-1-nonimmigrant-students-with-stem-degrees-and#open-comment

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Date

 

Ms. Katherine Westerlund

Policy Chief (Acting)

Student and Exchange Visitor Program

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

500 12th Street SW

Washington, DC 20536

 

 

Re:         Comments on Proposed Rule: Improving and Expanding Training Opportunities for F-1 Nonimmigrant Students with STEM Degrees and Cap-Gap Relief for All Eligible F-1 Students

80 Fed. Reg. 63375 (October 19, 2015)

Docket ID: ICEB-2015-0002

 

Dear Chief Westerlund:

 

I would like to submit the following comments in response to the USICE Proposed Rule, “Improving and Expanding Training Opportunities for F-1 Nonimmigrant Students with STEM Degrees and Cap-Gap Relief for All Eligible F-1 Students,” published in the Federal Register on October 19, 2015.

As an international student in the United States, I pursued (or am pursuing) a STEM degree and graduated (or will graduate) in ___(year)___ with a __(master’s)__ degree in the field of _______. The recent decision in Washington Alliance of Technology Workers v. U.S. Department of Homeland Security has eliminated the STEM OPT extension. Without the availability of a STEM extension, unless my employer is able to obtain an H-1B visa when the filing period commences on April 1, 2016, I will need to leave the United States when my OPT period concludes.

 

I was glad to see the proposed rule for reinstituting the 2008 STEM OPT extension, cap gap relief, and especially an expansion and improvement of the previous rule.

 

The OPT STEM Extension Should be Retained for the Benefit of STEM Graduates

 

The proposal to reinstitute the STEM extension will provide valuable hands-on, educational experience in which STEM graduates gain real-world immersion into a chosen industry. This experiential learning will allow me to integrate knowledge and theory learned in the classroom with practical application and skills development in a professional setting. STEM graduates like me should be given more opportunity to gain valuable applied experience and make connections in professional fields they are considering for career paths. The additional OPT time will provide me with more broad exposure to industries and organizations to aid in personally developing and exploring career possibilities as well as creating a professional network. These benefits also will encourage future international students to join STEM programs in the U.S. and allow U.S. companies to remain competitive globally.

 

The OPT STEM Extension Should be Retained for the Benefit of STEM Employers

 

Providing more OPT opportunities to STEM graduates will assist U.S. companies in the application of the latest strategies and techniques in the field. Expanding opportunities for STEM graduates benefits employers in high-tech industries by helping them to maintain connections with colleges and increase visibility on campus. This aids to promote community involvement and creates awareness of the field for future students and future employees. In addition, expanding practical training opportunities for international students will enhance U.S. companies by providing novel perspectives, fresh ideas, new processes, and specialized skill sets to augment the abilities of staff employees. Finally, STEM students will allow employers the opportunity to accomplish bigger projects, achieve more innovation, and develop new products and technology, all of which will further fuel the U.S. economy.

 

The Duration of the STEM Extension Should be 24 Months

 

In order to be a meaningful learning experience, a 24-month extension combined with the initial 12 month OPT period is the appropriate duration to allow me to meet my planned learning goals and allow for active reflection on I am accomplishing throughout the experience. Students with up to 36 months of practical training can be assigned more challenging projects that better complement academic programs and career interests.

 

 

Formal Training Program and Customized Mentoring and Training Plan Will Help Me Integrate Classroom Knowledge with Practical Application

 

Establishing goals and a professional roadmap at the start of my practical training will assist me in clearly identifying my learning objectives and planning how they will be accomplished. Completing this with my employer’s input will guide both my employer and me to make a more meaningful learning experience.

 

Cap-Gap Relief is an Important Part of the 2008 Rule and Should be Retained

 

Given that the H-1B visa program is a common mechanism for F-1 students to transition to the U.S. work environment, cap-gap relief is essential to avoid gaps in work authorization between the April filing window and the October start date of the H-1B visa.

 

Options to Address Pending Applications and Students Already Granted a 17-Month Extension

 

DHS should minimize the potential impact on STEM students in the event a final rule does not take effect before the vacatur of the 2008 Interim Final Rule. Many STEM students chose U.S. universities for higher education because of the availability of 29 months of practical training under the current rule. It would be a huge disappointment if students would instead only be able to remain for 12 months due to a delay in rulemaking. Therefore, the following options should be considered to best address STEM students already in OPT: First, any application for OPT STEM extension received by USCIS but not yet adjudicated prior to vacatur should be kept on hold until the new rule is in place. Second, any student already approved for a 17-month extension should be allowed to continue employment based on the approved OPT STEM extension. Third, a student in the 60-day grace period following initial period of OPT should be given the opportunity to apply for a STEM extension if the new rule takes effect during the student’s 60-day grace period.

 

 

Conclusion

 

Many opponents of expanding the period of OPT seek to pit native-born workers against their foreign-born colleagues. But, in fact, workers do not compete against each other for a fixed number of jobs. The United States has created a dynamic and powerful economy, and immigrants of all types and skills, from every corner of the globe, have worked with native-born workers to build it. Skilled immigrants’ contributions to the U.S. economy help create new jobs and new opportunities for economic expansion. Indeed, foreign-born students who graduate with an advanced degree in STEM fields from U.S. universities positively impact the U.S. economy and employment opportunities of native-born workers.

 

The most dramatic gains in U.S. employment come from immigrants who earned advanced degrees at US universities and are employed in STEM fields. Changing temporary immigration policies, such as by expanding the OPT period to 24 months, to favor holders of advanced degrees from U.S. universities in STEM fields is an obvious step given the demand for highly skilled workers and the extensive investment the country already makes in such students. Without a clear path to stay in the United States, these foreign students will fuel innovation and economic growth in countries that compete with the American economy.

 

With this letter, I urge you to support the U.S. economy by implementing this new rule by February 12, 2016. Thank you for your consideration, time, and support in this matter.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

XXXX


 ~ImmigrationGirl

99 Comments

  1. stemOPTWorker

    December 2, 2015

    hi emily, I frequently Follow your posts. I appreciate your help. I have a question here.Iam planning to visit my home country in Feb 2016.but,as you already know the court dead line is FEB 12th for STEM OPT RULE Vacation. On the other hand, when one of my friend enquired about the rule to USCIS, he got reply as:”Requests for Stem OPT Extensions that are approved prior to February 12,2016 will be eligible for the entire 17th month validity period.”

    I Dont know what should i believe.Please suggest me.

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      December 2, 2015

      As far as I am aware, there has been no official statement from USCIS regarding whether approved STEM extensions will remain valid. I don’t know if I would rely on anything else.

      Reply
  2. SA

    December 2, 2015

    Hello Emily, can you explain us what the next steps are that DHS will be taking for this STEM rule process? And the timeline of those steps? Thank you 🙂

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      December 2, 2015

      Right now, they are reviewing all the thousands of comments. They have to take them all into consideration and decide whether to change anything in the final rule. 
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      • AJ

        December 5, 2015

        Hi Emily,

        I have 2 questions:

        1. I’ve read that major rules are required to have a 60 day delayed effective date(irrespective of how long the agency has had to work on the rule) unless there is some justification to not wait that long. I have also seen cases where major and an economically significant rules have gone into effect in 30 days. In this case DHS could clearly justify hastening the process. Could DHS do that for this rule or is that simply inviting more law suites?

        2. Could DHS go back to the court and ask for an extension? Is that a viable option legally?

        Thanks in advance.

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  3. EP

    November 30, 2015

    Hello Emily ,

    Just wanted to know if by any chance you know if DHS had more comments favoring the STEM or against the STEM extension.
    Either ways will it effect their decision to implement the rule as it is.

    Reply
  4. Opt worker

    November 30, 2015

    Hello Emily, I’m on OPT right now. I got my OPT May 2015. I just moved to a new house, so who do I need to report to for the change of address? I already contacted my DSO and they updated my SEVIS with the new address. Is that all I need to do? I don’t need a new EAD or anything correct? Because I will be applying for STEM soon and I don’t want any problems happening because of the address mix-up. Thank you for your help.

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 30, 2015

      You don’t need to do anything for your EAD since you already received it, but you should fill out Form AR-11 online to report your address change to USCIS.

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      • Opt worker

        December 2, 2015

        I contacted my school International student advisor, and she said that since they updated my address in SEVIS, the USCIS knows where I am living, and dont need any more updates on the immigration side.

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        • ImmigrationGirl

          December 2, 2015

          SEVIS is under a different agency (ICE). I would not rely on ICE to update USCIS for you.

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          • SA

            December 7, 2015

            Okay so you think I should still fill out the AR-11 form even though my SEVIS is updated? Can you send me the link to the online AR-11 form? Thank you.

  5. Lee

    November 25, 2015

    Emily,

    It seems the final rule will be published in Jan. http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201510&RIN=1653-AA72.

    What happen after 2/12 as the final will take effect after 60 days (in March)?

    Thanks.

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    • AJ

      November 25, 2015

      http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201510&RIN=1651-AA83

      This rule was also economically significant, but it went into effect within in a month. How is it different from the new OPT rule?

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      • ImmigrationGirl

        November 25, 2015

        Technically this rule took 5 years to implement and I think it only had 38 comments.

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      • ImmigrationGirl

        December 21, 2015

        That rule was first published as an interim final rule, which means it went into effect while the rule-making process was being done. The final rule came out 5 years later, but I believe it just formalized what was already in place.

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        • AJ

          December 21, 2015

          So this rule cannot go into effect before mid march? In that case, the only option DHS has is to ask the court for an extension?

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 25, 2015

      It is possible DHS may ask the court to extend the stay. Otherwise, they will likely explain how it will work after 2/12 when the final rule is announced.

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      • AJ

        November 25, 2015

        Emily,

        You mentioned in one of your earlier comments that the rule needs only 30 days to go in to effect. I have seen rules on reginfo.gov – like the one I’ve linked to in my previous comment – which have been marked as being economically significant go in to effect 30 days after they were published. Why is it different this time around.

        Thanks

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        • AJ

          November 25, 2015

          I posted this just as you replied to the older comment.

          Reply
  6. Stem student

    November 24, 2015

    I applied for opt stem extension on oct 13. On October 15 I got email saying case was recieved and they also provided receipt number. I did not receive the receipt notice through mail in 7-10 days and on oct 27 when I checked my case status it showed:
    October 27, 2015, the Post Office returned a notice we sent you for your Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization , Receipt Number SRCxxxxx, because they could not deliver it. This could have a serious effect on your case. Please go to http://www.uscis.gov/e-request to request a copy of the notice immediately. If you move, go to http://www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.

    I called uscis and requested for the notice but they did not send back.
    I’m concerned if it is an RFE. If it is not RFE and if is just the receipt notice, then is it mandatory that I have to receive it in order to process my application?

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 25, 2015

      It was probably just the receipt notice, but call them again to be sure. It is not mandatory for you to have the receipt notice. Just be sure to verify your address with them so your new EAD card does not have the same problem.

      Reply
  7. STEM STUDENT

    November 20, 2015

    Thanks for your quick response!

    As the public opinion phase is over on Nov. 18th. Is there something we can still do to make a stronger case?

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  8. STEM STUDENT

    November 20, 2015

    I saw this at a website, that OPT stem extension might not happen due to too many negative comments
    What is your opinion on this ?

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 20, 2015

      While there were lots of comments on both sides, I don’t think the number of comments is as important as the substance of the comments. Many comments were not supported by any analysis and probably won’t have much impact. There is a lot of motivation for DHS to still go ahead with the rule.

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  9. S

    November 19, 2015

    Comment period ended. Now whats next?

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  10. Vik

    November 18, 2015

    More comments = More time to review?

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 18, 2015

      Generally yes, but I think in this case DHS is motivated to get this done by the Feb. deadline.

      Reply
  11. Prad

    November 18, 2015

    Emily,
    Is there a minimum number of days DHS is obligated to look at the comments before forwarding the final rule to the OMB. How likely is the final rule to be published within November?
    Also, I was wondering if the appeals court can strike the final rule down, after it has been published.

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  12. OLU, emmanuel

    November 12, 2015

    can i make multiple comments, or is it restricted to one comment per persons? please advise because the day is drawing near for comment period to end..thank you

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    • Rajish

      November 14, 2015

      You can make multiple comments, but make sure you clean your cookie before you do so, otherwise the system will ignore your 2nd and following more comments.

      Reply
  13. Graham

    November 11, 2015

    The proposed rule would require employers to certify, among other assurances, that the employer is not displacing a U.S. worker by hiring a STEM OPT participant.

    Are these stupid commenters not reading what is mentioned in the PDF?

    Reply
  14. Graham

    November 11, 2015

    The Association of International Educators (NAFSA) estimates that during the 2013-2014 academic year the more than 850,000 international students and their families at universities and colleges across the country supported 340,000 jobs and contributed $26.9 billion to the U.S. economy.

    26.9 Billion!

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    • Rajish

      November 14, 2015

      It is actually very simple logic:
      When did the rule come out? – 2008.
      Has the U.S. Economy been going down or going up since 2008? – Going up obviously.
      Then why not end this rule in 2016? U.S. want another Economic crisis? – No, please don’t end the rule!

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  15. Jason

    November 11, 2015

    The website has many data to support STEM student contribute to the us economy, and can be used in the comments.
    http://wenr.wes.org/2015/02/international-student-mobility-trends-2015-an-economic-perspective/

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  16. S

    November 11, 2015

    Hey Emily, does every employer have an Employer Identification Number (EIN)? Which is mainly used for tax purposes. Apparently, the E-Verified employer must also have an EIN for a person to apply for STEM in the new rule.

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 11, 2015

      Yes, every employer has an FEIN (other than sole proprietor)

      Reply
  17. Sri

    November 10, 2015

    Hi Emily,

    What would be the next step once the comment period closed on Nov 18th ?

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 11, 2015

      DHS must review all the comments, decide if any changes are needed to the proposed rule, then issue a final rule.

      Reply
      • Graham

        November 11, 2015

        Could the final rule be not to implement the rule?

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        • ImmigrationGirl

          November 11, 2015

          That is one possibility, but probably unlikely.

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          • AJ

            November 11, 2015

            I’ve read that the decision will not be based on a simple “Yea” v/s “Nay”. Most of these negative comments mention statistics that you’d assume DHS is already already aware of. So, is there a need to be worried about the number of dissenting voices, however ill informed their opinions may be? As I am pretty sure no amount of evidence to the contrary would be sufficient to convince these people.

      • Sri

        November 11, 2015

        How long will it take for DHS to review and publish the final rule ? Are there any chances for interim rule if the rule is published by end of November or early December ?

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  18. IMMIQUANT

    November 9, 2015

    Fantastic job from MIT. Proud to be an alum.

    http://desiopt.com/news/369/Serious-Negative-Effect-on-Hiring-STEM-Students-(MIT-Comments-on-new-OPT-STEM-rule).html

    Let’s keep this effort going!

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  19. Nishitha

    November 9, 2015

    Yes we need the stem extension

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  20. A.

    November 9, 2015

    Also, I have detected this comment MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES

    I strongly oppose the Department of Homeland Security’s proposed rule that would expand the Optional Practical Training program. First, this is a rule which by-passed Congress which makes one wonder about how lawful it actually is. Second, this expansion would allow U.S. tech companies to hire foreign students for up to 3 years and avoid paying their share of payroll taxes, equivalent to 7.65% of the employee’s pay. Not only does this program create an incentive for these companies to hire foreign students over qualified Americans, but it also could violate the foreign student’s pledge when they received their F-1 visa to leave the country after completing their degree. With recent college graduates struggling to find work, this is not the time to provide companies with an incentive to hire foreign citizens over U.S. citizens.
    Additionally, please consider that: Last year, the Center for Immigration Studies submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to learn more about the OPT program and its impact on American workers. CIS confirmed that: 497,274 work authorizations were granted through OPT between 2009 and 2015. So, in the past 5-6 years nearly 500,000 Americans have lost opportunities for jobs and on-the-job-training to foreigners…OPT is NOT Practical for America nor for our economy. OPT needs to be ended.

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    • GP

      November 9, 2015

      These standard comments are from sample list of comments from a website put up to ruin this proposal.

      check this. http://www.stopoverreach.com/

      I wish we had a similar website in support of the proposal.

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      • A.

        November 9, 2015

        Well, this community is quite strong.
        On this note someone able to refute the above-mentioned comment? I mean with actual data. Another one of that comment mentions 90 MILLION of americans that are jobless. 90? seriously?

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        • AJ

          November 9, 2015

          Well, the employers still have to pay social security and medicare(7.65% is alluding to this I suppose) to the employee, so they don’t save a penny there. Yes, OPT students don’t have to pay this and that results in a loss of $4 billion, but in return international students contribute about $25 billion in tuition fees alone. This is not an insignificant amount especially to private universities. The following study clears up some commonly held misconceptions about OPT and H1-B.

          http://immigration.uschamber.com/uploads/sites/400/facts_and_fallacies_high_skilled.pdf

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        • GP

          November 9, 2015

          A straight question. Are these 90 million Americans looking for jobs in STEM field ? I seriously doubt.
          Another, $4 billion take away from social security. Are we even eligible for social security benefits ? will someone pay a unemployed international STEM grad until he gets a job ? What about the $26 billion that international students brought to this country ?

          They are trying to put up some figures drawn from mostly websites like USnews to make their voice heard.
          Hope DHS knows how stupid are these facts.

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  21. Ashwin

    November 9, 2015

    Hi Friends,
    I checked the comments in the link given in the article and the comments have been overwhelmingly negative the last ten days. The first two weeks it was mostly positive even though most of it were 1-2 line comments from students. I urge you all to please submit a well thought out comment like Emily has posted above. These 1-2 line comments saying “I support this rule” “Please pass the extension” doesn’t help one bit when you compare them to the well composed negative comments being submitted there in the last few days.

    Regards,
    Ashwin

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    • A.

      November 9, 2015

      Well-composed negative comments? The majority is without any foundation, just a “go to hell obama”.
      Also, how will DHS evaluate them? What’s more, many negative comments are the same one copy-pasted 50 times.

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      • Ashwin

        November 12, 2015

        I agree. Most of these negative comments have that 7.65% tax stat and the ‘promise’ we F1 students supposedly made to return home after graduation. Obviously they are just copying and pasting this from some negative article. I really hope the people who decide on this rule see through this stupidity.

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  22. J A

    November 9, 2015

    I haven’t seen a single American citizen posted positive comment about this rule. How is that going to affect the rule making process? There is going to be more than 20-30k of comments. How are they going to read and evaluate all of these comments? Most negative comments have no objective and solid background but some are not totally nonsense.
    I guess It is not about opt or h1b or green card. They basically want to seal the borders and stop any kind of immigration (legal or illegal) and send everyone back home. That would be a big disaster to US economy.

    I am on OPT and I pay full social security taxes because I have been in this country more than 9 years. Why do they bring this social security taxes nonsense( I am guessing some MS graduates don’t pay but even BS graduates have to pay in STEM extension as they are in the country more than 5 years)

    I have a PhD and it took my company 9 months to find me. The position was open for almost a year. Where are all these qualified American citizens with PhD level education in physical sciences and engineering. During my PhD studies there were 60-70% foreigners in my program and many American citizens quit before graduation when they found a well paying jobs. These people who commented negatively on this rule are mostly not qualified for PhD level jobs(I don’t think they even know what PhD is, based on the use of their native language and serious grammatical mistakes they make)

    I urge people here to emphasize the following facts when they post comments to show how those negative comments are wrong:

    1. Most STEM students pay social security taxes
    2. We don’t accept lower wages or lower benefits( it is against the law and the OPT rule)
    3. In most cases hiring a foreign national costs more money to the corporations as they have to take care of their visa application fees(H1B-GREEN CARD etc…) and attorney costs
    4. There are many different engineering and science fields OPT holders get hired such as chemistry, biological-genetic development, materials or mechanical engineering …. NOT JUST IT
    5. If there is no OPT program most talented foreign students in advanced degree levels will go to other countries and this will dramatically affect the US university research
    6. Training and educating US citizens in STEM field is a very good thing. But if they try to exclude the students-researchers-professors from the US universities that would lead to a big disaster. US citizens can be smart and trainable but having a high level competition and talent pool in US universities is what makes it the best in the world.
    7. As a result of 6th fact US universities would eventually become mediocre and US science and technology field would collapse
    8. STEM jobs are not like union labor jobs. There is NO PREDETERMINED NUMBER OF JOBS. High efficiency, innovations, developments will lead to more jobs and it is a win-win for everyone. Talent and completion is the most important thing.
    9. If you exclude talented foreign nationals who are already integrated to the system that means you do not want any kind of immigration.

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    • AJ

      November 9, 2015

      Very well said. And I agree that we should all point these out to DHS, but then the DHS already knows this and hence the rule. These people putting up negative comments seem to think that America was built by their forefathers and now immigrants are reaping the rewards. Little do they realize that their forefathers were themselves immigrants and immigrants have made enormous contributions towards the building of this country. While DHS clearly mentions that the decision on whether or no to implement the rule is not simply based on “yes” v/s “no” votes, I am scared that the political repercussions of implementing a rule like this might make them think twice about it.

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  23. Eric

    November 8, 2015

    Hi emily

    THanks for your support and I have submitted my comments. As well known there’s huge opposite comments online even we have taken our efforts. How will the DHS evaluate the comments and make their decision? Are they gonna to review all of it and many of them I think they were just crap to complain. Or according to previous rule, what percent of impact they will have?

    Thanks

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  24. OPT Student Commenter

    November 7, 2015

    I saw this comment while browsing through the comments made about the proposed STEM OPT rule. Looks like a few tech leaders are supporting the rule! Hurray!

    *********

    I support this proposal strongly, and I have explained why in the paragraphs below, drawing from my own experience as the Vice President of Engineering at a large US technology company based in Silicon Valley, California. Over the last few years, my company has found it difficult to fill STEM positions requiring advanced skills because the US is facing a shortage of qualified STEM graduates.

    As everyone knows, America’s competitiveness in the 21st century will be based on how well we can lead in STEM.
    Although the proposed rule is a short term fix, it will help the nation in maintaining our lead in inventions, scientific discovery and engineering innovation in the immediate future, by allowing brilliant foreign-born STEM students to work in the USA. I do believe that we need a long term solution in terms of improving primary education in the STEM fields in American schools and encouraging more students to study in STEM fields, but that is another matter altogether.

    Some of the most outstanding inventions and patents in my company have been made by foreign born employees who graduated from US Universities in STEM fields. It is inventions such as these that help companies achieve a competitive advantage in a globalized world. We should give such talented STEM employees a way to contribute more for American innovation. I hope you will also consider the tremendous positive impact this proposed rule will have on American companies and innovation while finalizing the future of the STEM OPT program.

    Sincerely,
    Dr. James Cameron
    Mountain View, CA

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  25. A.

    November 5, 2015

    I really do not understand why some commenters claim that STEM students are illegals. “criminals” “unlawful” etc is how they call us. Can’t they even read the fact that it is mandatory for us to be in legal status in order to benefit from STEM OPT?

    See below:

    This attitude of giving law-breaking foreign people a worker advantage over our citizens is so wrong one has to wonder whether this administration understands that they work for…

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    • Rajish

      November 6, 2015

      Because they are angry about their losing jobs to us. When people are angry, it is very hard to be calm and reasonable. That relates to something so-called ‘EQ’: whether one can control his/her emotions in any circumstance.

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  26. Kayla

    November 4, 2015

    The comments for OPT is quite negative now, so hopefully we could have more comments or we will fail this again. And also if Emily could write a post again about this to ask for more comments from opt students, which will be super helpful! Here is the comment link: http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=ICEB-2015-0002-0011

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  27. Anon

    November 4, 2015

    Hello Emily, hope you are doing well. Just wanted to say you’re doing a great job, thank you so much for your efforts. If you can please answer some of my questions I would greatly appreciate it. Here it goes:

    I am currently on OPT, expiring next May. And I am also engaged and will be applying for a marriage green card by January after marriage. So my question is that since I already have an OPT EAD, that will last til May, can I still apply for a new EAD under “Adjusting of Status” category which is (c)(9) in I-765 form? Currently I’m on (c)(3)(B).

    By January I will only have 4 months remaining on my current EAD, and would like a longer EAD to extend my work authorization to 1 year. So can I apply for a new EAD around that time? Thank you for your help.

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    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 4, 2015

      Yes, you can still apply for the EAD under (c)(9) category based on your pending marriage based I-485.

      Reply
  28. Mandy

    November 4, 2015

    Extending OPT is definitely a good thing for the country to gather more talents

    Reply
  29. Rajish

    November 3, 2015

    This one really piss me off:

    “Isn’t it the purpose of our government to protect our liberty and allow its people the pursuit of happiness? But this heinous act deprives the very people this government is not protecting. OPT denied American workers more than 430,000 jobs during the years 2009-2013, and removed $4 billion from the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. OPT’s are sought after by employers because they tend to be younger (cheaper) than their American competitors. Employers save 7.65 percent when they hire foreign students instead of US workers because they don’t pay FICA or Medicare taxes under the OPT program. OPT workers often hold jobs in the $60-$90,000 a year range, but they cost Social Security about $1 billion dollars a year. Let’s stop this nonsense before we become a third world country just like these students come from”

    Reply
    • AJ

      November 4, 2015

      This is an excerpt from a right-wing wacko journal(it’s called – ‘The Washington Examiner’ or something) which plucks numbers out of thin air. These imbeciles don’t know that employers don’t save anything by hiring international students with advanced degrees from elite institutions. That 7.65% alludes to the Social Security and Medicare that the OPT students don’t have to pay(note that Employers still have to pay this). Little do they know that international students(apart from Indians, Canadians and couple of other nationalities) pay higher taxes than citizens and permanent residents do.

      Reply
  30. mohan

    November 2, 2015

    Due to all the negative comments, is it possible that new rule can we declined/not passed ?

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 2, 2015

      I still anticipate it will be implemented. Most of the negative comments are not supported by any thorough analysis so they are not given as much weight. I think many schools and employers in tech fields will be submitting positive comments as well.

      Reply
      • Qi

        November 2, 2015

        I am a bit worried too. With the election drawing near, there are lots of voices about anti-immigration. Their point of view is that foreign workers are cheaper than US labor which in general isn’t the case. I doubt many(if any) foreign student will accept a low ball offer just in order to work in US. Out sourcing firms are not included in this topic.
        Worst to expect is that this 24 month extension doesn’t get approved. In such case, will there be a new plan or we(those who didn’t won lottery in h1b) are totally screwed?

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        • A.

          November 3, 2015

          The negative comments are as stupid as they can get, so my guess is that the lawmakers or whoever is in charge will use some critical thinking. I just feel sad for the non stem students though, and I speak as one whose major got switched into a stem one while pursuing the degree.

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  31. A.

    November 2, 2015

    Do we get anRFE before getting a denial, right? When should we start worrying? I got my first opt card last year after barely 4 weeks. This is taking longer

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 2, 2015

      OPT extensions take about 90 days. It is rare for a straight denial without RFE or notice of intent to deny being issued first.

      Reply
  32. r

    October 31, 2015

    Do we get RFE if there is error in Company Address on I-20 while filling for STEM extension? What should we do if we get RFE ? Is this a cause of concern ?

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      November 2, 2015

      I don’t think that error by itself would cause an RFE

      Reply
  33. Sundaresan Jayaraman

    October 31, 2015

    Most of the comments from supporters are not elaborative and seems to be single liner. 50000 OPT students will be going back, if this is not done properly. Why they have not posted a single comment ? This lethargy will lead to heavy loss. Hence, please submit your comments seriously with data points. See my comments posted below:
    •US needs a larger tech-savvy workforce to maximize economic growth
    •400,000 stem students from 200,000 by 2015 (Doubling of STEM graduates)
    •At rate of $200000.00 per student for 2 year degree with tuition and graduation fees, staying expenses and other education revenue the US is receiving ( Total $80000000000.00) will go other countries with OPT system.
    •US Universities and colleges will be badly affected if the OPT Stem extension is not retained and expanded to 24 months.
    • Most of the US Universities and colleges will shutting their doors if the OPT extension is not given, because student will choose other countries for higher education
    •Students will contribute to the growth of US Economy by paying the Taxes on their employment ( 3 Years x $3000 per year x 400000 students= Total $ 3600000000.00).
    •Total Benefit to US Economy Benefit in the range of $ 83600000000 for 5 years
    •Students will contribute to the growth of US Economy by innovation and research in their field of study (Example Solar Energy, Medical Research)
    •Best practices from employers/industries can be reached to the Universities
    •Without practical training the education for 3 years will not prove to be beneficial to the students (Ex: mobile- android/iOS development)
    •Students acquire skills and specialized knowledge in their chosen studies ( Ex: Cancer Research, Stem Cell Research, Nano technology)
    •In developing countries the OPT is not available and that is why the students come to US.
    •The curriculum and syllabus of the various Universities are fast changing to changing technologies in STEM
    •The employers will be getting the top notch brains and new energy filled students who can bring benefit to the company by the new developments science and technology and IT ( Ex: BIG DATA in IT, Social Networking, Mobile technology) otherwise relying on obsolete technologies
    •The new rule proposed will help that it will not affect any US based existing employees as they are covered under the provisions of new rule protects their interests
    •The Industry and College co-ordination will get improved by the OPT program
    •STEM students will allow employers the opportunity to accomplish bigger projects, achieve more innovation, and develop new products and technology, all of which will further fuel the U.S. economy.
    •Without practical training the education for 17 months will not prove to be beneficial to the students
    •Students will leave US, in the middle of their practical training with half-baked experience, if the OPT stem is not for a minimum of 3 years
    •It takes a total period of 4 years to master the field experience of stem ( like IT experience without 4 years of practical experience is not preferred by an employer).OPT Stem extension should be for 24 months
    •Welcome the new proposals (Formal Training Program and Customized Mentoring and Training Plan),which will benefit both employer and students. But this should not be a burden with lot of paper work and the procedure should be simplified by online submissions
    •The OPT Stem Extension Formal Training Program and Customized mentoring procedure and training rule should be simplified for the benefit of small employers as well and should reduce the unnecessary documentation work
    Cap-Gap Relief is an Important Part of the 2008 Rule and should be retained
    •Welcome the new proposals and without this the students will leave the US and there will be brain drain and students will be losing the touch on the Stem degree advancements and experience
    •It will make a dent in the student career and resume, if the Cap-Gap is Relief is not retained
    •Anyhow, if they are selected in H1b, they have to come back and work after 6 months. If this relief is there, it will avoid unnecessary travel and unnecessary lack of continuity in employment
    •There should be a new rule that all the OPT Students with stem extension should be given automatically given H1B visa after they complete the OPT extension to serve US with their talent
    •If US is changing the rule of Stem OPT Extension on temporary basis, then international students will find the other countries beneficial and hence this new rule should be a permanent one and should be implemented before the court deadline of 12 Feb 2016.
    •The new rule should be implemented by Jan 2016 (before the 12 Feb 2016) deadline by the court
    •This will reduce the uncertainty for the career of the student and they can focus on their work/training they are undergoing if the new rule is enacted in advance
    •The existing students with 17 months OPT stem extension should be given for 7 months additional extension automatically, without inviting any further extension application based on the new rule and new OPT card should be sent

    Reply
    • GP

      November 2, 2015

      dude you are awesome,

      I wish everyone can post positive comments backed by rationale.

      Reply
    • ImmiQuant

      November 2, 2015

      Fantastic job!

      Reply
  34. Anonymous

    October 31, 2015

    Looks like there is a mass campaign of people from some organization that posted anti stem comments. Guys, please we need to post more positive comments!

    You can comment here http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=ICEB-2015-0002

    Reply
  35. Qi

    October 30, 2015

    I went through some comments. Not enough example is given! I have submitted my comment with more personal examples. Please take action to provide more concrete examples of how your work brought value to your company and thus us economy!
    BTW if your comment is over the length limit, do submit a pdf as attachment!

    Reply
    • IMMIQUANT

      November 1, 2015

      Yea I took a quick look and there are just too many ironies. It’s just absurd to read things like

      1. Exploiting cheap labors: How can F-1 STEM be cheap labor? From personal experiences, F-1 STEM are indeed very well paid.

      2. Our non-STEM peers’ rage that the rules get proposed… please guys…

      Such a messed up world. The only thing to do is to work hard, prove your value and one day, let the reality settle to their face that we drive the economy…

      Reply
  36. GP

    October 30, 2015

    Hi Emily,

    I was going thru the comments submitted for the STEM OPT proposal, and I saw that almost all of the citizens have a single stand in opposing (may be because they are misinformed) the proposal. How do you think these comments will affect the bill getting to final stage in coming months. Is this something we should be concerned about. Will a American citizen comment are take precedence over the student’s comment.

    I also request all students to spread the word and add more positive comments so that we can offset the negative comments.

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      October 30, 2015

      I don’t think those comments will be given more weight because they are from citizens, I think they will have less influence because, for the most part, they don’t make any effort to support the statements they are making. A well-reasoned comment is worth much more than a simple statement for or against.

      Reply
      • GP

        October 30, 2015

        Thanks Emily.

        Reply
    • Graham

      November 2, 2015

      Some of them have a valid point for example why US government is not doing enough to support its own STEM students, however I feel that is completely unrelated to the rule proposal. This should be directed to US government and not DHS.

      Reply
    • Sundar

      November 4, 2015

      With OPT students not doing the positive comments with the data points I am afraid how this rule be implemented. With total of 100k responses to White House there are only 5k comments and most of them negative.I strongly urge the OPT students wake up and do positive and supporting comments by Nov 6th.If 50% of OPT students post supportive comments it will be artlessly 50000 comments

      Reply
  37. Lee

    October 30, 2015

    The white house responses to the OPT petition, and said ‘After DHS reviews and considers all public comments, it plans to publish a final rule.’
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/propose-proper-regulation-extending-stem-opt-022016-avoid-expected-shock-both-firms-and-students

    Does this mean they will publish the rule on time?

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      October 30, 2015

      No it does not

      Reply
      • Lee

        October 30, 2015

        Thanks.

        Reply
  38. S

    October 29, 2015

    is there any possibility that the proposed rule would be effective by the end of January? My OPT expires as of March but I am considering the option of being on CPT so that I do not the employment gap…

    I found that OPT extension in 2008 became effective in the beginning of April. Could you please let me know when the OPT extension rule was actually proposed before it became effective?

    Thanks!

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      October 29, 2015

      I think we will be Feb. 12th is the earliest it will become effective.

      Reply
  39. Curious_George

    October 29, 2015

    after USCIS released the OCTOBER 2015 data

    http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/I-485%20Employment-Based%20Inventory%20Statistics/EB_I_485_Pending_Inventory_10202015.pdf

    I was expecting a blog from you as what you think of the data and how/where different categories will see improvements or who will get the GC/when

    Reply
  40. Leo

    October 29, 2015

    Hi Emily, again, thank you for the updates. This is very important for some of us.

    I will like to know from you, if you can give an idea on when to apply for the additional 7 months extension. I see that comments are accepted until Nov 18. If it is anything like the previous rules, the final rule will be in effect in a couple months after that, I guess. Is it only after the final rule is in place that one can apply for the additional 7 month extension?

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      October 29, 2015

      Only after the final rule is in place would you be able to file a 7 month extension.

      Reply
  41. G

    October 29, 2015

    Is the 140EAD rule published in the federal registrar yet ?.

    Reply
    • ImmigrationGirl

      October 29, 2015

      No, we are hoping to see it by the end of the year.

      Reply
  42. Shahzad

    October 29, 2015

    Its a longgggg comment 🙂 thanks ….I have uploaded this comment though…

    Dear Ms. Katherine Westerlund,

    I am graduate student in Electrical Engineering who has over 11 years of experience of working in IT & Telecom Industry with several Industry standard Certifications. I want to comment that in absence of a comprehensive and specialized Highly Skilled Migration program, no modern country can think of moving to path of progress. Infact the current STEP OPT program is only bridging this gap. International students in anyway do not pose a threat to local residents because of absence of a level playing field. Even if they are able to survive in this competitive private sector job, then rest assured they would come up a positive change in US economic and Job sector which would ultimately benefit US Citizens and non-citizens alike.

    I strongly commend for this 24 months rule and would urge that a clear path to of absorbing and benefiting from International graduates should be rolled out.

    Reply
  43. M

    October 29, 2015

    Thank you!

    Reply

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