TrueBlue2003

April 21st, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^

because you might have received a handful of upvotes then and are getting downvotes now but context (thread) matters a great deal.  Certain users with certain attitudes will be in different threads in larger proportions than others.  To assume your posts in different contexts at different times are being read and responded to by a representative sample of the fanbase or even of the community is a mistake.

The internet: distorting reality like never before.

Naked Bootlegger

April 21st, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^

In this scenario, the same 50% will probably claim that JB can't close the deal.  I get it.   But it's still a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario that the internet too easily screams about.  

There is probably a vocal crowd pissed at JB for developing Wagner and Wilson too quickly - should've held back on the coaching a little to make them less attractive to the NBA.    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

BigBlue02

April 21st, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

You can feel free to criticize Beilein all you want. I was saying that he is going to be criticized for whatever happens. But this line of thinking baffles me. People bitch about not getting good recruits. Then two guys may leave early and those same people start bitching about the good recruits Beilein isn't getting in the future, completely ignoring the guys who will probably be drafted. Then people bitch about not winning enough with the under the radar recruits, until we make a run to the sweet 16 and so people bitch about possibly not being set up for future tournament runs. It's a never ending bitch-fest for a coach and team who have been arguably one of th top 2 or 3 teams in the B10 since Beilein got here. Since Beilein made his first tournament 7 years ago, I'd say Michigan basketball has been on par with MSU, and from where he came from, that's pretty damn impressive

CRISPed in the DIAG

April 21st, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

I'll freely admit that I would like an occasional 5*. I'm certainly not alone. And since Beilein is accountable for recruiting, he is accountable for perceived failures. I'm not bitching. That's just me wanting more better talent.

At the same time, I think I've sung Beilein's well deserved praises more often than I've 'bitched' but there may be some generational aversion to criticism at play here.

TrueBlue2003

April 21st, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

and if he has us in his top 4, why would that be any weirder than having us top 4?  In fact it's less weird.  Neither school is regionally that close and we're the bigger head-scratcher if recent history is any indication of five star willingness to go to each school.  We haven't had a McD's all-american in forever.  Texas gets them far more regularly.

I mean, Eric Davis was a McD's All-American from Saginaw that chose Texas over Michigan, fergodsakes (caveat I don't claim to know the details of our interest but he lists an offer from us so the point remains that Texas got a McDs all-american from MI with a UM offer to go there, although maybe a good thing as he had a TERRIBLE year as a soph).

freejs

April 22nd, 2017 at 1:24 AM ^

has never shown an ability to develop a long big's inside outside game, which is what Bamba says he'd like to do, and Beilein and Co. just developed two big men from somewhat to completely under the radar into legit NBA prospects? 

The fuck is wrong with you talking down our program like that? 

eth2

April 21st, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^

Possibly there is a silver lining. Perhaps Wilson notified Beilein that he intends to return for another year. A man can always dream.

maize-blue

April 21st, 2017 at 12:23 PM ^

I'm hoping they don't get left hanging in the breeze. Hopefully they pick up a transfer from somewhere that can contribute and one of Wagner and Wilson return. I doubt Bamba picks UM.