GTA 6 Weapons references possibly found in an RDR2 file

Hey I found this a week or two week ago, but I wasn't sure if this was for GTA 6 or something else. It still might not but I don't have anyway to check either, so I'm just sharing this to see what you guys think.

I found these in an RDR2 file called propsets.meta, under "common_0.rpf/data/ai" so if you don't believe me you can check for yourself.

This file appears to be referencing weapon models that aren't anywhere in the files, including ones for an L1A1 rifle and a Pistol referred to as a Browning, probably the Browning Hi-Power.

Strangely there appears to be two variants for the Browning pistol, one silenced and one regular version. I don't what that's about but it definitely ain't from GTA V.

Here are what I think the weapons they are referencing, aside from the AK47: 

These aren't from GTA V because GTA V's version of these sections have entirely different weapons, and the AK47 in that game is referred to as "W_AR_ASSAULTRIFLE" rather than "W_AR_AK47"

For example, the below section is from GTA V, however it doesn't have any of the weapons references from above.

These aren't new btw, they appear to have been in the game since the release of RDR2 on console, so I was kinda surprised nobody else found these.

Sorry if this post seems a bit bootleg, but I wasn't expecting to be the one who found this. It's possible these are from a different game, but I can't be sure, so take from this what you will.

The Assault Rifle, Carbine Rifle, Advance Rifle, Special Carbine, Bullpup Rifle, Combat Pistol, Pistol .50, AP Pistol, SNS Pistol, Heavy Pistol and Vintage Pistol are all in GTA V. So it's likely left over from GTA V.

No, the bottom section you are referring to is a section from GTA V's propsets.meta that I am using to compare with the version from RDR2. It's the same section, but it's missing the GTA V weapons

Interesting find, as far as I know, the Heavy Rifle was a cut weapon from GTAV and it resembles the rifle, but the pistol is probably new.

Oh, right. I see. Hmm... interesting. Well, going back to Vice City, they did used to use real weapon names. Having to change them for new releases, due to copyright. So It wouldn't surprise me if these were for GTA VI, and they were just named after their real life models, internally?

Just now, Len Lfc said:

Oh, right. I see. Hmm... interesting. Well, going back to Vice City, they did used to use real weapon names. Having to change them for new releases, due to copyright. So It wouldn't surprise me if these were for GTA VI, and they were just named after their real life models, internally?

That's possible, since RDR2 does that internally as well. Lancaster and Litchfield Repeaters are referred internally to as "w_repeater_winchester01"  and "w_repeater_henry01" for their models.

I still don't know what the "W_J" before the L1A1 and the Browning pistols refers to, though.

I'd guess W is Weapon. But J? Hmm... what could Weapon J..... be?

16 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Hmm... what could Weapon J..... be?

44 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

I'd guess W is Weapon. But J? Hmm... what could Weapon J..... be?

John Browning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browning

1 minute ago, Kris194 said:

John Browning

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browning

That's what I thought at first, but the J is also in front of the L1A1, and as far as I'm aware he didn't make that one.

Seem to all be weapons that would fit nicely in a 80s setting

also this suppressed variant? Weapon customization being cut or changed? I honestly wouldnt mind that, it would add more depth having to find the suppressed variant, like in san andreas, finding the suppressed pistol was the coolest sh*t.   

4 hours ago, BigFloppySausageTits said:

Weapon customization being cut

Why would they cut something, that people actually love in GTA V? Weapon customization is one of the best GTA V features.

hmm so rockstar was testing the elements on rdr2 RAGE 

11 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

I'd guess W is Weapon. But J? Hmm... what could Weapon J..... be?

Javelin ? 

The J is for JUDAS bro.

41 minutes ago, deadasdisco said:

The J is for JUDAS bro.

Nice find. I wonder if anything else has been found, like a list of vehicles or something. Back in the day people found a huge list of vehicles in Max Payne 3 files. I think there must be something else too, though it is probably hard to differentiate whether it's for an upcoming GTAO update or VI.

13 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

The Assault Rifle, Carbine Rifle, Advance Rifle, Special Carbine, Bullpup Rifle, Combat Pistol, Pistol .50, AP Pistol, SNS Pistol, Heavy Pistol and Vintage Pistol are all in GTA V. So it's likely left over from GTA V.

did u read op? lmao

4 hours ago, RighteousMind369 said:

did u read op? lmao

OP edited the post...

17 hours ago, DerekLeet said:

Edited 17 hours ago by DerekLeet
clarification

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16 minutes ago, Orthur The Boah said:

OP edited the post...

Nah, I just misread it. Saw the first two images, and when I went to read them I read the bottom two thinking they were the first two. But it was already clarified in the next posts. Someone just didn't read the next posts before quoting  

As for the question, not exactly. GTA V has the Vintage Pistol (from L.A. Noire) and a few other weapons that are pretty old. It's a good sign, though. But if you were trying to use it as evidence in court it wouldn't hold up well. Even if I do believe the next GTA will be set in the past.

8 minutes ago, EliteGamer_6 said:

Just wondering, does this prove that VI will be set in the past? Weren't L1A1 and the pistol heavily used during the 80s?

max payne sao paulo vibes mane 

46 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Even if I do believe the next GTA will be set in the past.

yes , the box cell phones 

Wow. Finally something. That's very surprising. I think maybe they are testing the weapons in RDR2 just because right now its easier to test it on RDR2? Its weird anyway. But "Project Americas" was found in the archives of the same game, so we are just left wondering...

1 hour ago, Len Lfc said:

As for the question, not exactly. GTA V has the Vintage Pistol (from L.A. Noire) and a few other weapons that are pretty old. It's a good sign, though. But if you were trying to use it as evidence in court it wouldn't hold up well. Even if I do believe the next GTA will be set in the past

That's what the pessimistic/realisitic part of me was thinking lol. Maybe they're just using some old weapons in a modern setting or hell maybe there's a flashback to the 80s in a linear mission like North Yankton in GTA V and the old weapons are used ONLY there. 

But honestly I see this as a good sign, gives me a bit of hope for the 80s... Hoping for some legit leaks/rumours next year.

11 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

But "Project Americas" was found in the archives of the same game, so we are just left wondering...

Yea... This makes that project Americas more concrete imo. There was someone in the discord server saying how it could be RDR2 related because it's in the rdr2 game files and he refused to change his mind. Well this kind of proves that they could use GTA (VI) related assets in RDR2.

18 minutes ago, ArthurZussman said:

Wow. Finally something. That's very surprising. I think maybe they are testing the weapons in RDR2 just because right now its easier to test it on RDR2? Its weird anyway. But "Project Americas" was found in the archives of the same game, so we are just left wondering...

I'd wager it's less about testing weapons in RDR2, and more just trace files found in updated RAGE code. Since vehicles from GTA V were found in Max Payne 3, back in 2012. And I doubt they were using Max Payne 3 to 'test the vehicles'. Odds are it's just parts of the code that has been found as they're updating or working on RAGE, etc.

I'm no expert, so the specifics or wording is probably slightly off. But I think it'd likely be something like that.

1 hour ago, DeltaV20 said:

max payne sao paulo vibes mane 

Hopefully this is more the case than an 80s setting. Old weapons used by a cartel. I just don’t get everyone’s obsession with 80s Vice City. Yes, it’s a cool setting but I’d rather something not done before, like 70s San Fierro if we’re doing old settings. Obviously I’ll still enjoy the game though.

Oh, and btw. I should clarify. I'm not saying they aren't testing gameplay elements in a build of RDR2. They may well be. I know for a fact some studios do that in their previous games, when working on their next game. BGS are known for it. They used the V.A.T.S system for the slow-mo killcams in Skyrim, for example.

Also this is probably the best concrete leak we’ve had in a while. Thanks DerekLeet.